I’m skeptical of these types of missions. Creating good, reliable, and effective educational content is a system. Not only do you need to focus on the content, but also the distribution and promotion, and also the effectiveness/outcomes of that content. Without having a picture of the whole system, we can’t really tell if it is working. If we just fund really good content, without any insight/requirement on how it’s being distributed/promoted, then it was all for naught. In this case and cases like this, I’d like to see the whole system addressed, instead of just a part of it. OR, I’d like substantial proof that the Mission Request addresses a key need of the system, which I’m unconvinced that this Mission Request does. It seems as though, by prior comments, we have an overabundance of content, but a need for distribution and good outcomes. I won’t be approving this Mission Request.
Hey chaselb, thanks for reviewing the mission request and sharing your thoughts. Here are a couple of things you might want to consider:
I agree that the videos need distribution and promotion, which is exactly why this mission request includes expected deliverables expected deliverables that include engagement metrics (like views, shares, and mints) for the Collective to measure the mission’s progress and impact.
It’s important to note that funding wouldn’t be distributed unless proposals for this mission are approved by the Grants Council and then the applicant meets the expected deliverables (including engagement metrics) defined in the milestones. This mission provides exactly the kind of full system for video creation, promotion, distribution, and impact measurement that you described. Does it not?
I think everyone agrees that videos can greatly help grow Optimism if they gain the distribution needed to impact audiences. As I wrote in another post when requesting sponsorship, video content plays a pivotal role in today’s digital world and impacts 92.3% of internet users globally.
As stated above, this Mission Request is structured to enable a wide variety of helpful video content for the Collective, such as vlogs, news shows, podcasts, game shows, and musical live streams about Optimism. For example, you can see several kinds of videos that @DanSingjoy and I are thinking about creating for this Mission Request here.
Our team watches a lot of Optimism content on YouTube and we see several great podcasts and some great short clips, but haven’t seen many vlogs, news shows, video shorts, gaming shows, livestreams, or many other types of content about Optimism. There seems to be a shortage of content, not an abundance.
I hope this will help clarify this mission request and would appreciate it if you’re willing to reconsider your decision. Curious to hear your thoughts!
Hey @Rosmari – just wanted to flag this as a proposal that still needs delegate approvals in order to move to a vote. If you are no longer interested in pursuing this proposal – please disregard this message. In order to see the delegates assigned to your proposal those can be found here. The deadline to provide feedback and approvals for Mission Requests is February 7th at 19:00
Hey! Thanks for the response. I’m still not convinced that this effort is something the OP Collective should fund at this time. I’m also not a marketing/content expert by any means, so I could be wrong. But for me personally, I still don’t feel comfortable giving this Mission Request an approval.
I am an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power, and I believe this proposal is ready to move to a vote.
While we also echo what other delegates are cautious about, especially the distribution issue, we see opportunities where promising applicants who have actual distribution channels that reach potential users would apply and create great videos. We should carefully review applications based on their expertise, distribution channel and requested budget (7,000 OP is a lot just for creating videos) but there should be ways to support video creators who are willing to contribute to Optimism in a unique and creative way.
We are an Optimism delegate with sufficient voting power and believe this Request is ready to move to a vote.
The Mission Request is Ready to Vote with four approvals.
Will there be a maximum budget for this Mission?
I understand up to 7k OP will be the baseline grant for a single applicant and multiple applicants can apply.
The full budget of this mission will be 7.000 OP and it’s going to be distributed between multiple applicants that pass the Grants Council review.
Just curious, why is it 7000 OP for the whole request and not for each single mission proposal? From the docs I took that baseline grant amount is the amount meant for a single mission (so if there are many missions fulfilling that request then each one should have the cap on that baseline amount, not that they have to split the amount among multiple proposers.
Baseline grant amount: This amount should reflect the minimum amount required to execute the Mission.
Of course I understand the challenge in having any budget limit if there’s no cap on the number of applicants but I think this is a bit misleading.
And I’m commenting on this proposal but I’m actually worried about my own, where I stated:
Baseline grant amount: 5-30k OP
Should this Foundation Mission be fulfilled by one or multiple applicants: Up to 10, 300k OP max budget
So I assume the total budget of up to 300k OP with baseline amount for each applicant at up to 30k OP, but expect real allocated budget being way below those amounts.
As someone who has made a lot of educational videos about Optimism, I agree that quality control is pretty difficult. The target should be channels that have a history of high quality content.
There is also a chance that I will apply to this mission if it is passed.
For those reasons I am abstaining on the vote.
Thank you for confirming the approval of this Mission Request and asking about the budget. We really appreciate all the delegates who approved it, as well as everyone here who took the time to review the request and share comments. Looking forward to the vote!
Yes, the intention of this Mission Request is to enable multiple video creators to each earn up to 7k OP. The mission request template does not have a dedicated place to write a max budget and, like you and @kaereste, we interpreted that the baseline grant amount is the amount for a single applicant (not the total budget split amongst multiple proposals).
We suggest a maximum budget of 70k OP for this Mission, which would enable 10 video creators to earn up to the baseline amount. For anyone who is interested, you can see some reasons for this budget below.
Mission proposals introduce overhead for both applicants and reviewers. It can take an applicant many hours to make the proposal, respond to comments, and follow up on milestones. Similarly, it can take grants council members many hours to read the proposal and engage in follow up discussions. Given the work needed to create and review mission proposals, it’s important to ensure that the incentives are high enough to make an effective use of everyone’s time.
While creating this mission proposal we spoke with @Sinkas from L2Beat and we wrote the mission request with his feedback in mind. He mentioned that a higher budget is often needed to help attract interest and talent capable of producing quality videos, which is a great point. It may be worthy to note that the baseline funding amount for mission proposal is already lower in terms of OP than other comparable video missions, such as the RetroPGF Podcast (which received 8k OP), Delegates Corner Podcast (which received 10k OP), and Audiovisual Content from CryptoVersidad (which received 55k OP).
There are at least five video creators who are already interested in making mission proposals for up to 7k OP each and we believe that the Collective should support many talented video creators to maximize benefit for Optimism. With this and the budget for Intent 4 in mind, a maximum budget of 70k OP seems fair for this mission. Of course, the allocated budget could be much lower depending on the quality and quantity of applications.
The Grants Council has opened early submissions as an Indication of Interest for this mission request here
For your application to be considered, the Mission request must pass the Token House vote on February 14th. Submissions will not be considered if a Mission Request is not approved on the 14th.