I did a few times, yes, including in public in the discord channel, where I believe you were active. And where I didnāt have complete information, I noted.
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I did a few times, yes, including in public in the discord channel, where I believe you were active. And where I didnāt have complete information, I noted.
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Nice, and thanks for your response!
Looking forward to the response from the team.
Dear delegates, badgeholders, and citizens,
First of all, we appreciate the concerns raised regarding the allocation of the grant, and we understand the importance of transparency in such matters. After all that is what decentralization indirectly stands for so we welcome the questions and are open to discuss all POVās on the matter.
So here is Kromatikaās response to the raised points.
1 - Protocol-deposited liquidity - 90K OP
Itās essential to clarify that the decision to allocate 90k liquidity was made in accordance with the established rules. We acknowledge that predicting the evolution of KROM-OP price ratio can be challenging, and our intention was to safeguard against potential downturns. We took measures to set up a pool and prevent arbitrage to the best of our ability. If it would have been done 1-1, it means at that time that KROM price would have been way higher.
This was a question raise by @jackanorak on discord:
We allocated 90k OP based on the proposal submitted 18 months ago when 90k OP were equivalent to 300k KROM. However, at the time of creating the KROM/OP pool, the price of Krom was 1 OP = 51.08 Krom.
If you attempted to create a pool with 300k Krom and 90k OP, the starting price set in the pool creation transaction would be 1 OP = 3.33 KROM, which is 16 times higher than the actual Krom price. This would lead to an immediate dump and depletion of OP from the pool.
It had to be split into 2 add liquidity (not limit order) transactions to avoid that.
First one: Create the pool with starting price 1 OP = 51.08 Krom, and add liquidity (5873 OP = 300k Krom) OP Mainnet Transaction Hash (Txhash) Details | Optimism
Second one: Add the remaining 84126 OP, so that we are in line with the proposal (300k Krom / 90k OP)
OP Mainnet Transaction Hash (Txhash) Details | Optimism
Hope this is clear now.
2 - Gasless swaps
We understand the concerns regarding the execution of Gasless swaps and the apparent delay in its implementation. The delay is not due to oversight but rather a commitment to thoroughness. Thereās also the need for a comprehensive audit before deployment, and we are currently in the final stages, with the audit report at 99% completion. We extend an invitation for you to review the pre-signed audit report for transparency.
While the HOP mechanism for gas fee reimbursement serves as a fallback option, we are actively addressing concerns related to user experience and adhering to the no-sale policy. Our design, currently in beta, aims to provide genuinely free and gasless swaps without compromising on these principles. Itās important to note that, given our current priorities, the delivery of this segment (free & gasless) is not our sole focus.
From the start, our focus has been:
Last but not least, at the time, gasless was also delayed due to optimism bedrock changes, which introduced gas estimation errors - which made popular libraries such as web3.js and ethers.js to make incorrect assumptions for gas on optimism. As a result, all txns submitted by the relayers were failing. The contracts are already deployed, but not in use. The team decided to pursue the topic once the smart contract security audit is done.
We remain dedicated to its successful implementation in due course.
3 - Liquidity mining campaign on 0xPlasma and Gamma
As for your inquiry into the liquidity farming program and the potential concerns related to team-owned wallets participating in the program, we reply the following -
The primary goal of this initiative is to enhance liquidity, providing users with an attractive yield and subsequently improving trading conditions and cost-effectiveness for traders.
Itās important to note that liquidity has been contributed by a diverse range of participants, including community members and contributors from the DAO. All contributors are community members first. They have transitioned into contributors, some choosing to remain while others have left. When contributors, including ex-contributors, participate in the liquidity farming campaign, it is natural that their involvement can be linked to wallets associated with their contributions.
To amplify: these are not treasury funds but individual user wallets who are KROM holders.
Also, as for the percentages mentioned, the level of incentive captured depends on what is in the pool. If you bring 5k USD and there is 50k in the pool, you will get 10% of the rewards which seems huge. However, if that same campaign had 500k in the pool, you only get 1%.
You canāt define upfront what would be the share of the incentives you will get ā that applies for all staking / liquidity farming campaigns. It all depends on a holderās behavior and participation.
Lastly, implementing a campaign that explicitly excludes anyone who has ever contributed to Kromatika seems impractical and counterintuitive to the inclusive nature of community participation. There is currently no specific clause preventing contributors, past or present, from participating in the liquidity mining campaign as individuals.
4 - Limit order bonuses
Here is a chart showing limit order usage.
(red = optimism, blue = arbitrum, green = mainnet)
Here is another response we got in the optimism discord :
We acknowledge the observation regarding the spike in limit orders coinciding with the incentive program for (early) adopters of FELO. Itās important to clarify that community rewards are designed to attract and onboard users to the system, serving as a means to encourage initial engagement with the dapp rather than a speculative airdrop.
The reward program was announced well in advance, aligning with the grant timeline. We made concerted efforts to publicize this program through multiple announcements and marketing channels (X, Medium, Discord,ā¦) to ensure widespread awareness. While assessing the organic take-up of the program, itās essential to consider that community rewards aim to create an initial surge in usage.
An analogy can be drawn to couponing, where the distribution of coupons is meant to attract customers to a store. Once the coupon is used and the individual has experienced the offering, itās their decision to revisit or not. In a similar vein, a spike in usage during the incentive period is a logical outcome, and the subsequent decline aligns with the natural progression of user behavior.
Also, there are still limit orders being created on Optimism. It has only slowed down. As you see, arbitrum and mainnet orders are also rising but slowly. An interesting metric we tracked sometime back is that more than 50% of first time FELO users become returning users. This shows a market fit for sure! (FELO = fees earning limit orders)
It is our flagship product and we are proud of it. Being the first DEX to implement limit orders on Optimism, and perhaps one of the very few (or perhaps the only one?) that has automated the powerful UniV3 tech for limit orders.
Users have the following benefits:
The only fee is a service fee in KROM (dependent on network gas price) that is used to pay out the Keeper contracts we have deployed for limit orders.
To promote usage of this innovate product on Optimism and clearly understanding the market fit, is why we incentivized it.
We remain committed to refining our strategies and welcome constructive feedback to enhance the effectiveness of our community engagement initiatives.
5 - Marketing
Our approach to marketing expenditure is deliberate, given the nature of the industry and the importance of prudent financial management. In navigating the complexities of the industry, in other words, there are more so called āmarketing cowboysā in web3, then any other industry, we prioritize efficiency in our use of OP tokens, a practice aimed at responsible resource management. We believe this is a rather positive mindset to have. We are quite aware of the no-sale policy and being a boot strapped project, we are diligent with marketing funds.
We have utilized 4k partially and another 1.5k in the works. We will also have material posted by crypto research platform Revelo Intel once we decide what package suits the project the best in terms of reach and budget.
We remain committed to providing clarity on our marketing strategy and expenditures.
6 - Affiliate referrals
While itās true that there has been a delay in its implementation, itās important to communicate that the initiation process has indeed commenced.
Our team has been diligently focusing on addressing the aforementioned aspects and challenges, which have taken precedence in our development timeline. Despite the delay, we want to assure the community that the referral program is actively in development, and we are committed to bringing it to fruition.
We understand the significance of the referral program in fostering community growth and engagement, and we appreciate your patience as we work towards delivering a robust and effective system which in turn will contribute to Optimism ecosystem growth and usage.
7 - Usage of the grant
Thank you for providing a comprehensive overview, and we appreciate the opportunity to address these concerns.
In terms of fund utilization, itās important to clarify that a total of 174k OP has been utilized. To break it down:
We acknowledge the concerns raised regarding the enduring impact of certain programs, particularly the limit order campaign and the observed distribution of rewards. Itās essential to emphasize that these initiatives are part of a broader strategy, and their full impact may require time to manifest.
In light of these concerns, we want to reiterate our commitment to transparency, responsiveness, and ongoing improvement. We recognize the importance of addressing these questions comprehensively, and we are open to further dialogue to ensure clarity and alignment with the expectations of our community.
As we move forward, we remain dedicated to refining our strategies, learning from our experiences, and optimizing our initiatives to create lasting value for our community and stakeholders. We appreciate your engagement and constructive feedback, which are invaluable in shaping the future direction of our project.
Welcoming all badge holders to digest all the info in response to the questions raised.
Kromatika is an open source āfair launchedā project with no VC backing. We are committed to providing the best DeFi tools for traders and growth of Optimism ecosystem.
I have a long, point-by-point response to this, which Iāll eventually finish, but honestly I think my findings below say much more with fewer words.
Letās discuss the limit order program, which is the largest distribution of OP to date from this program not going directly into liquidity. It is also intended to reflect organic use generated by the program.
Of the top 20 wallets receiving the most distributions (~25% of the total 60k OP distributed), I can find only one not connected to Kromatika insiders or to several other wallets also farming the distribution.
As before, I am not alleging wrongdoing here, merely posting observations and leaving it to Kromatika to explain in particular the connections to team wallets shown below.
Regardless of whether the team did indeed sibyl its own grant program, which is an open question, these findings do lend strong support to the notion that there was little organic use generated by the 60k OP distributed here ā which, in combination with the questionable decision to deploy considerable liquidity several months after the original intention, calls into question the overall impact Kromatika has been able to generate for the Optimism community, even with 300k OP allocated.
There were more wallets apparently sibyling this program than there have been individual limit trade orders placed in the several months since the end of this program.
Meanwhile, there is a large buy-heavy liquidity position courtesy of OP Governance, whose purpose remains uncertain except for, in Kromatikaās own words now, protecting price. I appreciate their candor.
I reiterate my call for Kromatika to return the excess OP for this liquidity; they acknowledge there is no real reason to deploy it other than to protect price or adhere to the letter of the grant. Returning this OP would show real goodwill as they prepare to ask badgeholders for RPGF on impact they claim to have had.
Details below:
The top recipients of the first phase of the limit order program are as follows:
n | to | coins | share | cumshare |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 0x4db0315d9376d4868629336fa2db3a98213c2542 | 1000 | 2% | 2% |
2 | 0x98adca7e539269e6e4477fa64043e6658bccba30 | 1000 | 2% | 4% |
3 | 0x99cdd2e23f6e4bc8e53a433bf68443821d6baadd | 1000 | 2% | 5% |
4 | 0x9b3493adb33004fd7a63fb1fe332d9cd8143995d | 1000 | 2% | 7% |
5 | 0xdc07213d6bad59c08300d991855addee1e54b6ce | 1000 | 2% | 9% |
6 | 0x87d59ab177cbec244bf4fb97dfbd4e254164d048 | 808 | 1% | 11% |
7 | 0x1c640c0f3db08f86f6eca59c97856341c5c7d146 | 800 | 1% | 12% |
8 | 0x867848ea050da0eb03bc7eb2b8b94c49df6c1d19 | 800 | 1% | 14% |
9 | 0xf603c510ffdb10d6bc2ee392c3dcffd470e62da3 | 800 | 1% | 15% |
10 | 0x56e340e19147fca01d2a1bcfc688bc18c1d4b27f | 720 | 1% | 16% |
11 | 0x83425f6705c25e45aae36bc8065bc585e8435963 | 720 | 1% | 18% |
12 | 0xc2acf84b5c7c7c427d82cbf0ee37cf3bb47e56b9 | 720 | 1% | 19% |
13 | 0xcf67413f10cfc270b7c4e5ae8d71edf4f823c14c | 668 | 1% | 20% |
14 | 0x21db2039dec926841fe9542a37cce5d8d174049f | 620 | 1% | 21% |
15 | 0xd9f547ef4ca694502373e150beae37834b2d62e4 | 616 | 1% | 22% |
16 | 0x013ee45428849aa40c029462f61879771077cce5 | 606 | 1% | 24% |
17 | 0x0518246f6e7a9d0676b3bffce3630d43fe34069a | 600 | 1% | 25% |
18 | 0x06f816a5dfe08af64056857dbea28910af5cd1d2 | 600 | 1% | 26% |
19 | 0x207d3116b1989144cf4a2639123ef8584d5d1fc0 | 600 | 1% | 27% |
20 | 0x3ebca8a86a532d970f4e69a30ba8fc5bca7a345c | 600 | 1% | 28% |
In order:
Wallet 1: Sibyl 1 related; deposits to binance and aggregates from others
2 connected to kromfund.eth multisig through 0x631a78f9d903496Ce777Ba43bf7cb711730d54EA, a wallet that bridges to arbitrum to deploy primary liquidity.
3 initially funded by 0x4d9c9, which has heavy interaction with heavy multisig user 0x24 and likely kromatika insider
4 paid biweekly [by 0xC5bmultisig directly] (Ethereum Transaction Hash (Txhash) Details | Etherscan)
5 deposits to sibyl 1
6 funded by 0xC5b multisig through 0x24eB627ee33429d8213b60701deB2950145E0F83, major kromfund.eth multisig user
7 Multiple transactions with wallet 2 and wallet 9
8 funded by wallet 2 and interactions with wallet 7
9 multiple interactions with wallet 8 and others, curiously deposits into fixedfloat at end of incentive program
10 deposits to two sibyl 1 binance addresses and connnected directly with sibyl 1
11 Connected to wallet 9 and wallet 2
12 deposits to sibyl 1 wallet
13 deposits to sibyl1 wallet
14 Apparently organic use
15 New sibyl network; connected to another wallet doing limit orders
16 related to wllet 15 though 0x792, a likely sibyl receiver also connected to wallet 15 that receives several OP airdrops
17 deposits to sibyl1 wallet
18 deposits to sibyl1 wallet
19 deposits to sibyl1 wallet
20 deposits to sibyl1 wallet
There is, again, much overlap between these wallets, suggesting sibyl activity.
Describing the large sibyl network
Three primary binance deposit addresses are associated with this sibyl network, of which several wallets appear to be part.
The first deposit wallet is the most immediately revealing; part of the limit order distribution came out of a second wallet, which gave a flat ~25 OP distribution by wallet to a total of 224 participating wallets. Of those 224 wallets, [78 (or 35%) deposited the value from this OP (some having swapped to ETH to 0x16a.](a list of these wallets is in this link). This provides strong support for the possibility of sibyl activity.
This potential sibyl network has onchain connections with team-linked wallets
kromfund.eth has several interactions with early KROM holder 0xF41581B6cEc6FB011C063F4cE6497571bb0781e3 going back to early 2022. One of these transactions is a mainnet multisend that appears to have gone to team members (other wallets on the top recipients list are on there)
This wallet goes on to fund 0x16a, one of the binance deposit wallets.
To the Kromatika team: do you know who this person is? They appear to have farmed roughly 1/3 of your limit order program.
I also invite corrections here; when it comes to the actual mechanics of the program I might be misunderstanding what is being distributed for which actions. All I see are the flows of OP from certain wallets.
In a post from this time last year, I looked at projects that hadnāt done anything with their grants, issued the previous August. I thought itād be a good moment to revisit these.
Among these projects that hadnāt touched their grant by November 2022ā¦
It is probably worth asking 1) what we can do to coordinate with these projectsāand possibly 2) ask for some OP back in some cases.
Although this is Phase 0 (and in several respects not bound to standards for newer grants), these are still OP resourcesāan enormous amount!āand itās worth following up on them.
300k OP
Builders rewards - 200,000 OP (2/3rd of total)
Aave Grants DAO will allocate 200k OP to involve the community by distributing grants to build on top of Aave V3 Optimism and grow the OP ecosystem.
Events (focused on Optimism ecosystem) - 100,000 OP (1/3rd of total)
Aave Grants DAO represents the Aave protocol in many DeFi events, which could be sponsored and receive hackathon prizes.
8/3/22 - Foundation sends to receiver multisig 0xcd150d9cfdb39d287d69b9b1bb7111e58414aca8
6/8/23 - Multisig sends to another multisig, 0xe50c8c619d05ff98b22adf991f17602c774f785c
9/7/23 0xe50 sends to multisig 0x24db24abc762a6ef8a5c5b770ca62684e13b1b9c
9/10 0x24 multisends to 0x04fa (1153 OP) and 0xb00 (1153 OP), appear to be personal wallets, unclear what for
11/7 0x24 sends ~8k OP to Polynomial multisig 0x596 ā presumably a builder reward
Wallet still has 290k of the 300k OP allocated
AAVE appears to be distributing its grant in accordance with expectation, albeit extremely slowly. It is probably worth checking in with them to see what their plans are from here.
1mm OP
8/3/22 Foundation wallet sends to chainlink multisig
ā¦and thatās it. Nothingās been done in almost 18 months.
300k OP
7/8/22 Foundation sends to 0x multisig
8/12/22 0x Multisig sends to multisig 0x1d
2/8/23 0x1d sends 451 OP to another multisig, 0x536. Iām not sure but I think this might be related to this grant https://x.com/0xCommunityDAO/status/1623382357888626689?s=20 , as 0xsha2, who is on this multisig, retweeted it.
5/1/23 0x1d sends 233k ZRX and 27k OP to another multisig, 0xe1c. This doesnāt appear to have any information associated with it. The OP eventually ends up in an EOA, which sells for USDT. This EOA is a signer on a multisig that gets the ZRX, so this appears to have the structure of another grant.
268k OP left.
Again, this appears to be consistent with expectation, but the distribution of this is remarkably slow. Would definitely want to hear more about their plans there - and what the deal was with that 5/1 transfer.
150k OP to developers
450k OP for liq mining on major coins and stables on Synapse
400k OP for liq mining on SYN,
3/26/23 - sends 850k to 0x450, which next day sends to 0xad6, a Cumberland DRW marketmaking address, which promptly deposits these in Binance.
This oneās more concerning - the 850k was intended to remain within Optimism DeFi. Sending to Cumberland, a large CEX market maker, makes this outcome unlikely.
150k OP remains.
I suggest we contact Synapse to determine what has happened with this OP.
300k OP
Still hasnāt claimed its OP
300k OP
250k OP - subsidies
50k OP - builder bounties
Gelato gave an update here, easily verified onchain.
5/12 - 50k OP to https://debank.com/profile/0x6a0a93cd6d6fb7a36bf6234ef4650bf9474e7682, which sells for ETH and sends 10e to each of four different wallets. Although itās in a more roundabout fashion, it appears to be a similar structure to the previously disclosed bounties.
202k OP remaining.
Gelatoās been relatively great in providing updates; would love to see how it plans to carry out the remainder of its bounties.
We have a delegation in Connext and we launched an RFC for the funds to be used, as it benefits both protocols:
There is a liquidity task force being formed that wants to take the initiative and make use of the funds: