I discovered the Optimism ecosystem with the quests and it showed me how easy it was to get started, how fast, and how affordable it was. Even if this is a requirement for a future airdrop, I think that a significant portion of those who complete the quests get excited and stay on Optimism.
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Welcome @Talaz ,
I’m glad to hear that. Optimism vision is not just about a platform. The most exciting part is the experimentation on governance to create a new way to build things, where profit and social impact are both possible. It can be overwhelming that much information, but we are here to help those of you willing to participate in the collective.
Here’s a working constitution.
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Hi,
So far I just have only the Uniswap NFT, because I needed to swap. I like your idea. I have played some games with tokens and addresses and it can be fun and educative (I won’t burn an OP token though haha). The thing is that airdrops are massive and must have a well-tested and efficient method. And most importantly: in a game theoretical way so airdrops are for the people most likely to contribute to the ecosystem.
My advice is to enjoy building or supporting OP with the thing you love to do most.
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Seems obvious it’s going to be a part of criteria the next Airdrop. They are pretty all “easy”. I see them as being part of the multiplier for OP rewards, like in the first drop.
I think something like, do the quest (small multiplier) then come back and use the protocol as well, for a greater multiplier would be a good compromise.
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Still do the quest bro. You don’t want to miss out on the multiplier 
I think the quests are a good opportunity to get to know the protocol and use it. It takes quite some time to complete it and therefore I think it‘s a great approach to be able to filter out sybils. I like it and think it‘s a huge step in the right direction 
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Agree, but I would argue a wallet which has literally only done quest tasks is a Sybil. If it were up to me they’d also need a considerable amount of organic regular transactions.
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Using Quests as criteria is a bad idea, when a lot of quest is sybilled that’s very noticeable. As an example, here is sybil detected on Synthetix Quest.
(context: It is nearly impossible to have same exact SNX rewards even with same amount of SNX due to how debt fluctuation works, yet there are 1.9k+ addresses that have duplicated amount of rewards).
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There is need for better criteria if quest is considered. (user retention etc.)
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I think they might become part of the community after the airdrop. First of all, I think that I was qualified to participate in the community by participating in the airdrop.
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I really, really wished that is the case, however experience from moderating Synthetix and Lyra Discord server ended with people just trying to get in quest and ditched as soon as they done with it. And this is saying lightly because this isn’t worst thing they done.
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The quests take quite a lot of time and money to be invested in the network. If someone is willing to do all the quests then they’re going to be familiarising themselves with the ecosystem and may be much more likely to stick around in the future. Even if they come just for the NFTs, it would be interesting to know whether they stay. I suspect many will.
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Lots of good takes in here in regards to how just looking at Quest criteria alone isn’t a great criteria for airdrops. Just wanted to add my 2 GWEI brainstorming possible ways to modify the criteria to filter out airdrop farmers, in an equitable way…
Add a multiplier factor to any Quest airdrop allocation - e.g., the amount of gas you used on optimism, the number of days (within a period) that you transacted on optimism.
For example, if 2 wallets completed all quest tasks, but the first one only did the quest tasks on optimism and the 2nd also ‘organically’ continued to use optimism, than the 2nd wallet should get more quest-airdrop OP allocated.
Sybil farmers will likely only be doing quest tasks and that’s it.
If you used/spent 10x more gas or 10x the number of transactions or days using optimism, then you should get more than someone who just put in the minimum.
You could also use the median or mean wallet’s gas usage/# of days, as a reference/baseline to normalize to.
tl;dr
I think rewarding optimism gas usage is a fair and relatively more organic metric that is not easily gamed, and the gas (aka fees paid) directly helps optimism, so it’s a good thing to incentivize.
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I think the quests are an awful way to distribute OP, even after cleaning up off sibiloors. While quests may be a good way to get some people to try out different protocols, huge majority of the questoors are in it only for the airdrop and will ditch the protocol soon after completion judging by the interaction with questoors in different discord servers. I recommend against using quest NFTs as a way of distributing OP, many have gotten the NFTs off secondary markets anyway with zero to none intention to use the protocols. OP should focus on protocol level incentives from grants as adoption as that has a higher impact of rewarding and onboarding aligned users.
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Very good, I agree!!
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Is there a way to filter out quest NFT holders that did not actually complete the quest? Is there a way to validate that Quest NFT holders actually completed the quest? This seems key to define esp. after seeing on-chain evidence of a single wallet purchasing like 20 of the same Quest NFT from secondary markets, presumably to hedge multiple wallets for airdrop
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I completely agree with Goose’s points about using the OP quest as a criteria for airdrop 2. While the OP quest program may have increased raw metrics, I highly doubt it has done anything to increase real user engagement… People come into various Discords, scream about how they have a job to do and they need to get the NFT, and then they run off afterward.
TLDR on this side of things: giving out OP to armies of people who simply farm NFT’s is a very bad idea. There’s nothing more to it than that. Please don’t do this.
Instead of focusing on collecting small NFT’s, what protocols need is support from the Optimism Foundation in areas such as development, marketing, fundraising, and growth. The Optimism Foundation can then connect protocols with the right partners for integrations. I’ve had the pleasure of working with folks at Optimism on this - Binji, Scifer, and the other people I’ve worked with on the Synthetix side who have been instrumental in bringing new protocols to Optimism and setting them up.
So yeah, that’s my two cents on how NFT farmers are not beneficial to the industry and how the foundation shouldn’t use them as criteria for any airdrops. Something something for the sake of our industry something something.
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I wouldn’t say they r an awful way to distribute any OP airdrop but I do know it has is pros and cons Wen it comes to the aftermath once the airdrop happens which I think the team wouldn’t have made the quests part of the airdrop if they didn’t think it would be beneficial but from wat I’ve gotten to learn within the time n ppl commenting in regards this both in here and from discord many we’re only doing them to be eligible to take part in the distribution but there was also. Huge amount that their interest wasn’t just the airdrop but an opportunity to be part of a growing community in where they can contribute on making it better as it grows. There’s always going to be ppl that r looking for airdrops to just take profit if they can from them and it’s like any other thing we can point that out or try to think of a solution in which it wud just be beneficial to those who r committed n r involved with the community. I’m sure the team has taken this in mind and stuff which wud be something to look forward too, but the quests r a good way to give the opportunity to those who potentially can’t be as active as others in discord n contribute a lot to the OP network. Just taking them out of the picture shouldn’t be the easy solution, many great ideas on how it can be handled have been given which is great. Being active tho in any way possible and Getting involved for the right reasons are in a way being noted by the team over those who just complete couple quests n then not be involved at all after that. Happy new year to everyone and the OP team n we continue to support everyone regardless of their personal opinion.
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I’d imagine it’d be very easy to filter them out. All they’d have to do is confirm whether the user had interacted with the address of a specific contract within the quest’s valid time window.
The team also proved to be competent at filtering out bad actors last airdrop.
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Idk, I honestly arrived here because of the quests and have enjoyed doing them very much. They forced me to dig deeper in subjects I never had the occasion to really learn about. I of course do feel incentivised to do so because of the upcoming drops but that doesn’t make me believe any less in the potential for this project and isn’t that the purpose of this whole airdrop anyway?
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Hi
Let me some time to achieve them 
I’m discovering optimism for a few weeks, still have time to reach 15 nfts.
I’m also discovering the governance forum, will be more active in it.
And happy new year to everybody!
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