I am voting yes here due to value/reward ratio
Hi @jackanorak, the team has just finished up @ ETHBarcelona, thanks for your patience.
Dune analytics board on lesson completions/badges issued here:
https://dune.com/didierkrux/bankless-academy-badges
Considering the goal here is making Optimism governance more accessible, Academy Badge issuance is our best KPI for this alliance. Because weāre building a learning journey that aims to stay evergreen for years to come, we arenāt expecting a bulk of completions to happen at this point in a bear market, or even disbursal of grant funds. Realistically we can shoot for 50 completions per month - I expect more but its difficult to tell because we havenāt launched governance content before, and we donāt know how much more the bear is going to affect traffic. Added incentivisation layers like the Thank Optimism campaign will help here, but we havenāt experimented with this before.
We currently host 8 full lessons and 3 articles in our user journey. Most of this material makes up our āEssentialsā curriculum, and weāve just begun exploring our DeFi, DAO, NFT, and Infrastructure paths.
The material proposed above would be launched as 1 lesson, as part of the DAO path.
Weāve arranged our two proposed lessons to go into production & launch at different times, so the marketing campaigns would be handled independently. For context, our multi-lingual governance lesson (here) is an Academy + IMN alliance, while the RetroPGF lesson is an added Academy component of the Giveth alliance.
As agreed with the Optimism community during our Layer 2s lesson launch, we will be introducing users to Optimism as their first L2 + community, and building more content to empower these users on their Optimism journey. We do plan to explore other L2s in the future, but Optimism will always come first.
I also want to address some concerns you raised in your delegate communication thread:
I noticed your inquiry into the involvement of the broader BanklessDAO ecosystem in this round of mission proposals. While Bankless Academy is a three person project born out of BanklessDAO, we no longer request DAO funding, and act more as an independent initiative under the Bankless brand. Academy is not directly affiliated with any other BanklessDAO initiatives, although @OrnellaWeb3 does work with the BanklessDAO marketing department. We are not affiliated with Giveth, this would be our first collaboration. We are not affiliated with Thrivecoin (or the Thank Optimism alliance), and we are not receiving any funding from this alliance. Plugging in the Optimism-related Bankless Academy content was an afterthought that came up in conversation with Jrocki.eth & Senad, to give both alliances more impact.
As mentioned, the 12,000 OP component of this proposal covers 200h of team labor across: user + topic research, integration with learning journey/curriculum, multiple writing passes w/ team feedback, illustration concepts, illustration passes w/ feedback, knowledge checks, editing, launch assets + site integration, plus a profit margin that we invest in future content and site functionality.
Iām sure that your expertise at Velodrome would allow you to write an article on DEXs over a weekend. Our Explorerās Handbook entries usually only take a few days. A lesson, as part of a curriculum, requires much more planning and execution:
- What lesson subjects are you going to cover, and in which order?
- What topics are you going to cover in each lesson, and in which order?
- How do the questions asked in knowledge checks, and the quest action, train and validate the userās learning progress?
- What keywords does the user already know, and which should be introduced/omitted in this entry? In what order?
- How will the included diagram, or example, interact with written content to facilitate the learning process?
- How should the cadence of learning be broken up to give variety and engagement, helping users get through to collecting their badge?
I could go on. The reality is that when youāre building something with so many components, in a space where things are changing every day, you need to test and iterate, and that requires time.
The problem with a majority of education content in the space is that itās totally inaccessible to newcomers - by format (text wall vs. gamified experience), entry knowledge requirement, missing comprehensive diagrams, little content continuity, and lack of practical components. Until we can see and invest time in this, we will continue to struggle onboarding from even parallel industries.
The 3,500 OP for translation covers five different languages. Thatās roughly 700 OP per language.
There are two factors to consider when looking at our costs.
- All funds are locked for a year. As we cannot know OP token value upon disbursal, weāve added a downside buffer on the token value.
- We are including a mark-up for inclusion in the Academy user journey + our project management, which will be used to fund further platform development.
Thanks for the reponse. Iāll get back to your feedback in greater depth, but in the meantime:
Iāve seen this logic a few times and think itās destructive and confusing. It makes it difficult to price proposals (given everyone having their own bad estimates of OPās value a year from now).
Edited because in any case itās probably bad to be discussing token price at all:
Yes this is a problem, and it seems to come at an interesting point in regulatory tides.
From the project side (as others have expressed) we have to protect our own missions. Iād like to understand more about the decision to have a vesting term, and see what can be done to navigate this together in the future.
I just donāt think the output is consistent with the claims here. I think the language here is cumbersome and does little to onboard users. I encourage others to look at these and ask themselves what the likely impact of these lessons is.
Hey, Tetranome, Itās great to see Bankless Academy providing content for Optimism yet again. We can say, your platformās interface is intended to be simple to understand and use, which is actually great. Besides this, the method by which the topics are presented and then repeated with quizzes makes them simpler for beginners to comprehend. Even a newbie blockchain fan may become quite informed after carefully completing a few lessons. We are very excited about the content you will create for Optimism. Your earlier content for Optimism looks to have turned out highly beneficial and appreciated. At the session where we examined the proposals, We, The ITU Blockchain delegation team, decided to give your initiative a chance.
Milestone #1 complete
Hello Optimism Collective, Iād like to share a brief update with you on our alliance mission.
The Bankless Academy squad has been hard at work on our multilingual Optimism Governance lesson. Weāve been through multiple writing/editing passes, feedback rounds with core community members, building out our translation infrastructure across our Notion/Crowdin CMS, and training our translation team to work with the pipeline.
Today Iād like to share the beta version of our āOptimism Governanceā lesson:
Donāt forget to leave your feedback - on each slide, or at the end of the lesson - as we use this to improve content before launch!
Weāre delaying release of the final English lesson release by a week so that we can close our various feedback loops, make sure the English content is ready for translation, and finalise illustrations. Official launch is now scheduled for September 7th.
I first heard about Bankless over POAPathin back in 2021. It was my entrance door to this amazing web 3 world! Best to the team and the community.
Woha! Very happy to spread the voice about this new lesson, gamifing the education itās one of my favorite quotes from web3
Milestone #2 complete
Our āOptimism Governanceā lesson is live!
[ Translation in progress ⦠]
Hi @Tetranome!
As Season 4 draws to a close this week, weāre so excited to see how youāve executed on your Mission! Please post an update for the community here outlining the milestones youāve met this Thursday (9/20) by 19:00 GMT. Please include links to any final work products as weāll create a final roundup linking to all Mission deliverables.
We also encourage you to sign-up for RetroPGF Round 3. Youāll be able to describe the impact of your Mission when you sign-up: RetroPGF Round 3 Applications Are Open
Thanks again for being part of this experiment and helping us build the Collective
Milestones #3 and #4 are complete
Try our Optimism Governance lesson here, available in six different languages!
Milestone #5 is currently being finalised, with translated tweets and newsletters scheduled for tomorrow. I will make a final post upon delivery.
Weāve created a spreadsheet to track Bankless Academy & IMN marketing deliverables here:
Thanks @lavande, weāre grateful and thrilled to be a part of what is being built here
Congrats to the Bankless Academy team. Iāve been sharing their resources as I think is one of the easiest and most straightforward ways to learn more about the ecosystem.
Please continue the fantastic job and congrats on achieving and delivering all the deliverables of the mission!
@Lalocripto1 You are one of the OGs from Bankless so this word are a big merit for the coordination vision, we were a lot of contributors building all this session and content and Iām glad that also you are sharing the content in your network.
Milestone #5 complete
All deliverables posted as of Friday, excluding one newsletter translation now live.
Thank you to the Optimism Foundation & Collective for supporting public goods and web3 education.
And thank you to all friends who showed their support.
[Mission Accomplished]
[End Transmission]
Thanks for the update @Tetranome! Please not that all Missions will be able to showcase their work tomorrow during a dedicated Mission demo day on September 28th, at 16:00 GMT on the Discord mainstage!
Demo Day - Mission Proposal Edition September 28th 2023 - 4pm UTC
Show off your Season 4 Mission Proposal accomplishments and milestones:
- Each mission proposal will get 2 minutes to present
- Summarize your mission proposal
- List your milestones and the results of those milestones
Apply here - (Discord):
Include:
Presenter Discord Handle ā must be in the Optimism Discord
Link to your mission proposal