同意，羊毛党应该被惩罚。黑客也应该被惩罚。
Hrm I have to dump every airdrop to meet tax obligations. Here in Australia airdrops are considered income. I need to pay tax on the fair value at time of receipt. Also, I cannot claim a capital loss on income. So the path needs to be dump airdrop, move away 40% for tax, then re-buy later so I have the ability to realise a capital loss later if i need to.
There are valid reasons to dump the airdrop, I would hate to be excluded from future OP distributions as I’ve been a huge fan and user since Synthetix launched.
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I agree with the viewpoints here. If the token was meant for governance solely, why not just provide the token to users involved in governance strictly rather then a wide and diverse distribution?
users that choose to recognize some profit are not necessarily bad. A temporary drop in price should not directly impact the long term holders so why should it matter if someone sold. Is it wrong for me to sell something to then buy back a larger amount in the future?
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This is a good way to continue to funnel value into a smaller and smaller group of users, ensuring the users with the most wealth of this asset (VC and core team) continue to accumulate an ever increasing amount until they have all the voting power. It will surely pass though, because lets be honest, this is in absolutely no way, shape, or form a decentralized ecosystem.
This is basically the equivelant of 20 Amazon board members unanimously voting in favor of Amazon board members receiving a pay increase.
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100% agree. But what is difference between those who were not eligible in airdrop 1 with guys who sold OP?
If you sell OP, you can create new wallet and participate in airdrop 2.
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Non-issue. You simply don’t claim then.
The whole discussion is clearly skewed by many users who sold and trying to come up with bizarre arguments to defend their behavior.
If OP has rewarded dao voters, multi-signers and gitcoin donators, it obviously should punish dumpers.
Though to be able to delegate your tokens, you had to claim them 1st THEN delegate (unless wording is completely misleading on Optimism’s website). I am always a gitcoin donator. Guess what? Many of the times I am donating airdropped funds. If we are not permitted to sell a token then why make it immediately available?
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i wasn’t eligible, how to participate in next airdrops?
The incentives to sell you describe exist for everyone. Some decide to stick with it, some sell. The sellers get punished (or the holders get rewarded).
The tax discussion is a false dichotomy. If people sell because of tax reasons it means those users (believe) they cannot ever participate in governance, so obviously they should never get rewarded.
I totally agree with you. Dumpers should learn big leasson
But why punish the higher IQ portion of the community that dumped? Perhaps they will not dump if price has stabilized to a reasonable level.
Do you wish to be governed by fools and the poor?
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I am strongly agree with you since their action causes the every day efforts of the Optimism are ruined
absolutely agree with this proposal.
Partially Agree.
I have claim early when op around $5 but still hold. but when went down around $2, I sold out token to cover gas fees which spend on platform and profit. Now again buying because of their OP now much stable than earlier.
But this decision to exclude for future airdrop it effect on many holder as well as new investors.
This is Dex market and everyone here for own profit.
I have sended my OP to my ledger and left 10 OP in the original wallet, but didn’t sold them and didn’t used multiple wallets, hope they can see that.
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I understand the feeling, but I disagree and I explain you why:
" However, from Optimism governance’s perspective, such accounts are counter-productive for our stated goals"
This is not actually true. Or well, it is true only if you speak about the price. But if you speak about the price it means that you are only interested to the project for dumping it a higher price.
In governance perspective, instead, the dumpers are not always bad, because if they cannot be active part of the governance at that moment and do not know to who delegate the tokens, it is better to sell. It is better for them (instant gain from something they cant follow) and is better for the community because the token is bought from somebody else that care about it and probably he wants to delegate or being active part of the community and governance.
I would use more severity on those accounts that are eligible for historical airdrops but they do not claim them or they claim and never do any activity with them. No active users on the governance etc. They are only holding, that is fine for the price which is not dropping for their fault, but token price is not the thing that matter for the life of the community. Community needs active members, so if you cant be an active member, just sell the governance token to somebody else, or at least delegate it (not randomly). Better sell than delegate it to random ppl.
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Completely agree with you
The farmers (=Sybils) have been already removed, so what are you talking about?
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Completely agree with your decision.
100%true and i agree