# Recap: Community Call #5 (September 27th)

**URL:** <https://gov.optimism.io/t/recap-community-call-5-september-27th/3572>\
**Category:** Community Calls\
**Tags:** season-2\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/recap-community-call-5-september-27th/3572 "2022-09-28T16:27:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/recap-community-call-5-september-27th/3572/1 "2022-09-28T16:27:41Z")

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Great and productive call this week as usual! A recording of the meeting can be found [here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Uuc1YLRBWzkB3drlUpES0gytABnFdMpk/view?usp=sharing), and the recap is below:

Messari put out a great post on OP governance [here](https://messari.io/report/state-of-optimism-governance).

On new [Optimism Governance Docs](https://community.optimism.io/docs/governance/):

- Adding a flow chart might be a good idea. **What are some examples of flow charts / guides in other governance communities?**

On confusion about which proposals are eligble for review by delegates:

- We will have a Voting Round 7 Review Roundup thread where proposals will need to be posted at the end of the review week.

On accountability for Season 1 grants that have not yet been deployed:

- We want some kind of accountability/pressure coming from the community!
- One future option is an accountability committee, but this would need some more discussion/thought.
- Non-recommendation based committees are a great topic for season 2 reflection period
- Traver from Messari mentioned that they in the early stages of an on-chain accountability system for grants
- **For now, a public thread tracking these things and applying some friendly community pressure may be the best route**
- To do: Make post on this topic.

On delegate approvals for projects:

- Approvals are _not_ necessarily an endorsement
- We want to keep the overhead low for these, so a simple “I approve” is good enough, no reasoning necessary

On proposals not getting enough early feedback (this took up the bulk of the discussion):

- **Resolutions and continued discussion can be found on this thread: [Update to Committee Operations](https://gov.optimism.io/t/update-to-committee-operations/3571)**
- @Gonna.eth suggested flipping the delegate approval and feedback phases so that delegate approval would be the last step
- Proposers should know which committee will be reviewing their proposal at the feedback phase to prevent them from implementing unrelated feedback and then still getting rejected
- **Committee proposal assignments happen only a few days before the proposals goes to snapshot which made it difficult to run a feedback process. It would be useful to have more clarity earlier on assignments.** - @linda
- This should happen on this first Thursday of delegate review week, 10 days before assignments are due and 7 days before snapshot. It may not have happened this round but should for the next one. -@lavande
- Proposals submitters should have a clear understanding that this is a rolling process, and all is not lost if they don’t get their proposal through in a specific voting round.
- The stakes are actually quite high and it takes a lot for a vote to go against a committees recommendation. - @jackanorak
- Important for committees to raise concerns in the feedback stage of the process. - @alexcutlerdoteth
- While we may not need hard guidelines to start, committees should be generally encouraged to actively participate in the feedback phase of proposals they will eventually review
- **Should committee recommendations be due at the start of snapshot, or three days after like it is now?**

On the topic of guidance on funding development through a proposal:

- Stay tuned, this is being worked on by the foundation! - @ben-chain

Still looking for a host for next community call! Feel free to put your name on the sheet [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-r1X2gNtP4UqbnJ9ELlHf0lVHeXdXUy5_JMAxP9lERs/edit?usp=sharing).

Let’s meet up at Devcon! Coordination on this thread: [Devcon Community Governance Meetup!](https://gov.optimism.io/t/devcon-community-governance-meetup/3573)

Thanks for tuning in everyone! As always, if I missed anything or if you have any feedback for the ways the calls are run, please let me know! Stay Optimistic 🌟 💖