# Proposal to change marketmaker Wintermute **URL:** \ **Category:** Technical Proposals\ **Created:** [December 29, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445 "2024-12-29T21:08:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/1 "2024-12-29T21:08:47Z")
Hi there. As you can see the price of $OP token is in a state of decline and does not respond to market conditions.Despite the successful growth of Ethereum ecosystem the price of token $OP is not responding. In my personal opinion a successful marketmaker should respond to market fluctuations and maintain the token price properly. Wintermute, on the other hand, is known for being an unscrupulous marketmaker, and as we can see, he does not perform basic token support. Every time the price of a token $OP tries to rise, Wintermute begins to drain $OP in large volumes in favor of ETH. You can notice this if you open the Wintermute public wallet and analyze the last 3 months. I believe that WinterMute is not suitable for the role of a marketmaker and it should be urgently replaced with a more competent one before it leads to the devaluation of grants and the decline of the entire ecosystem. I don’t understand at all how we could allow Wintermute to be Optimistim, especially after the well-known hack? What are we thinking of gentlemen? Let’s discuss! ---
**Author:** ![183Aaros](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/183aaros/32/11172_2.png) [@183Aaros](https://gov.optimism.io/u/183Aaros)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/2 "2024-12-30T08:45:15Z")
> [@theOPtimist](#): > > Every time the price of a token $OP tries to rise, Wintermute begins to drain $OP in large volumes in favor of ETH. You can notice this if you open the Wintermute public wallet and analyze the last 3 months. Could you provide some specific evidences? Some visual charts might be more effective for understanding the case. ---
**Author:** ![loxia.eth](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/loxia.eth/32/10793_2.png) [@loxia.eth](https://gov.optimism.io/u/loxia.eth)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/3 "2024-12-30T08:53:40Z")
This looks like a very important problem, and I hope you will provide more facts to broaden the discussion ---
**Author:** ![Marcus01](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/marcus01/32/6862_2.png) [@Marcus01](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Marcus01)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/4 "2024-12-30T09:01:46Z")
I am very pound of superchian of optimism, We can see very many chains built on superchains > **[L2BEAT - The state of the layer two ecosystem](https://l2beat.com/scaling/summary)** > > L2BEAT is an analytics and research website about Ethereum layer 2 scaling. Here you will find in depth comparison of major protocols live on Ethereum today. But the price reaction is indeed an issue, I saw a feedback from GFXlAB earlier that OP is, for the most part, indistinguishable from memecoin, which I think is worth reflecting on ---
**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/5 "2024-12-30T10:02:20Z")
Sure thing guys. I do it with my phone because I’m not on the computer but you can prove it by yourself! This is Wintermute’s wallet [Arkham](https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/wintermute) You should pick OP token and you will be make sure of it. Unfortunately, I can’t attach screenshots, but you’ll see for yourself. Take a look at it for yourself. The pools on uniswap are already almost empty. In the ratio of 80/20 OP/ETH. They should be at least 50/50. Perhaps Wintermute is fighting off losses of 20 million OP with these actions. ---
**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/6 "2024-12-30T10:03:27Z")
Please. Make sure of that. Log in to Wintermute wallet. The link is in the post above ---
**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/7 "2024-12-30T10:08:15Z")
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**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/8 "2024-12-30T10:08:45Z")
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**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/9 "2024-12-30T10:09:16Z")
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**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/10 "2024-12-30T10:09:46Z")
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**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:10am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/11 "2024-12-30T10:10:16Z")
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**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:10am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/12 "2024-12-30T10:10:59Z")
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**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/13 "2024-12-30T10:13:26Z")
Gentlemen, and that’s just in one hour. Imagine how much they have destroyed in the past 3 months. Why are we not responding to this? Considering Wintermute’s reputation. For comparison, you can select the $ARB token in their wallet and see if they do so. ---
**Author:** ![theOPtimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@theOPtimist](https://gov.optimism.io/u/theOPtimist)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/proposal-to-change-marketmaker-wintermute/9445/14 "2024-12-30T15:49:00Z")
That’s what we had to prove, gentlemen. Look at $OP token and look at the Wintermute wallet. They just erased all the growth that had been there all day with their actions. This is the most SCAM market maker a project can have. Why isn’t Foundation doing anything about it?