# Let's talk about Identity in the Citizens' House

**URL:** <https://gov.optimism.io/t/lets-talk-about-identity-in-the-citizens-house/2170>\
**Category:** ✨ General\
**Created:** [June 1, 2022, 5:21am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/lets-talk-about-identity-in-the-citizens-house/2170 "2022-06-01T05:21:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![NicoProducto](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/nicoproducto/32/5794_2.png) [@NicoProducto](https://gov.optimism.io/u/NicoProducto)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/lets-talk-about-identity-in-the-citizens-house/2170/21 "2022-06-03T13:10:10Z")

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> [@yozhik](#):
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> So e.g. someone who is very active for two months has a right to be involved in decisions at the end of that period, but if they were then to stop participating for a year, they have less of a say in what happens then?

This part is interesting! This will boost real participation and involvement in the proposals. But, at the same time, we are not fully dedicated to one thing, we are humans and A LOT of things happen in our lives. We have to be careful in the way we communicate this, if this becomes a standard of the Citizen House.

The point is how do you measure participation? It can’t be only for likes and comments in this forum, because bots can do that

Great topic @yozhik

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**Author:** ![OPUser](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/opuser/32/179_2.png) [@OPUser](https://gov.optimism.io/u/OPUser)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/lets-talk-about-identity-in-the-citizens-house/2170/22 "2022-06-03T13:43:30Z")

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> [@NicoProducto](#):
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> The point is how do you measure participation?

It might take few minutes but i would suggest personal judgement, I can go and see the user’s past comment and decide. If the user does not agree, s/he can raise the concern and someone else need to validate it which will make final decision.

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**Author:** ![charcombination](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/charcombination/32/790_2.png) [@charcombination](https://gov.optimism.io/u/charcombination)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/lets-talk-about-identity-in-the-citizens-house/2170/23 "2022-06-03T19:09:33Z")

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The questions of granting citizenship (1), revoking it (3) and whether to deny anonymity (title) each merit their own post.

Most of the discussion here is about anti-sybil measures. Do we really need them? If the Citizen House scales to approximately Dunbar’s number - 150 - a manual selection process based on demonstrable contributions should be equally effective.

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**Author:** ![OPUser](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/opuser/32/179_2.png) [@OPUser](https://gov.optimism.io/u/OPUser)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/lets-talk-about-identity-in-the-citizens-house/2170/24 "2022-06-03T20:25:27Z")

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for initial phase, you are right, it can be done manually but we also need to think about scaling out

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