# Grants and Mission possible overlaps

**URL:** <https://gov.optimism.io/t/grants-and-mission-possible-overlaps/6390>\
**Category:** Accountability  🗂️\
**Created:** [July 6, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/grants-and-mission-possible-overlaps/6390 "2023-07-06T16:33:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![mitch](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/mitch/32/5480_2.png) [@mitch](https://gov.optimism.io/u/mitch)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/grants-and-mission-possible-overlaps/6390/9 "2023-07-08T14:17:52Z")

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Hello all! I want to address some concerns and comments since my mission proposal is linked here and I find some of the comments here to be misleading or perhaps misinformed.

I can see how proposals containing the words “Giveth” and “TEC” might make it appear that they are all the same, but that I think is too steep of a generalization.

@Griff made a great post here to provide some more transparency on the issue and a better understanding of the the “Giveth Galaxy” and the relationships between different organizations.

> [@Season 4 Feedback Thread](https://gov.optimism.io/t/season-4-feedback-thread/6303/11):
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> Thx Jack for bringing up this issue so I can add transparency to it. I am the main thread between many projects on your list! I have been telling every public goods focused project that will listen to me that they should be building on and & for Optimism. I even got on stage today in ETHBarcelona and said “30M OP in November. What are you building? Put it on Optimism” [[ETHBarcelona Solar Stage Day 2] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kf0wxjNfMY) Go to the 7:41:12 mark I have founded A LOT of public goods focused projects ov…

To help summarize here are two key points I think worth mentioning:

**Sharing a Mission for Creating Impact** : The “Giveth Galaxy” is a collection of projects, friends, founders, products and DAOs united by a shared mission to leverage web3 technology for positive change. These organizations collaborate and support each other, forming a network of interconnected initiatives.

**Autonomy and Independence** : Each organization maintains its own leadership, teams, products and mission. Organizations part of the galaxy such as the TEC, TEA, DappNode, Giveth, General Magic, BrightID, Panvala (RIP 😢 ), ShapeShift, 1hive, Blossom Labs are all orgs I would consider part of our shining Galaxy but are very clearly not the same organizations. We all support each other in succeeding because of our shared mission and values.

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I also feel the need to address this comment directly:

> [@Grants and Mission possible overlaps](https://gov.optimism.io/t/grants-and-mission-possible-overlaps/6390/3):
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> Giveth team members also involved in this proposal: [CharmVerse - the all-in-one web3 space](https://app.charmverse.io/op-grants/proposals?id=8d33fd6e-8f43-47d3-82f9-bde037b819e8) They are also involved in Pairwise And mission proposals are controlled by three big entities which are not good Velodrome and Giveth alone get more grants than anyone else And some mission also involved by both Giveth and BanklessDAO

Even if we consider your assumptions to be true, I don’t see how your concerns are valid as to why this is harmful to the grants and mission processes.

Each mission proposes to add value the the OP ecosystem from various different perspectives. Nobody is coming to the plate with malicious intentions, and all the organizations you mention have considerable skin in the game and reputation at stake.

The Giveth Galaxy has a well reputed track record (SINCE 2016) of building the web3 for good ecosystem (before the term web3 even existed). **Why wouldn’t you want this type of profile to be the one supporting the OP vision and participating in its grants programs?**

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