# Governance Fund Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Delegates 🏛\ **Created:** [May 3, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213 "2022-05-03T18:04:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/original/2X/3/399c2cdab1be9e0c1ae7481c939f977574c28f5e.svg) [@system](https://gov.optimism.io/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/1 "2022-05-03T18:04:13Z")
**We would love to hear your thoughts and answer any questions on Governance Fund: Phase 0 and Phase 1!** Good discussion includes: - For Phase 0: - Flagging any errors in our TVL, Transactions/day, or Optimism Nativity metrics - Discussion around how to craft a clear proposal for incentives - For Phase 1: - Discussion around how to improve the Phase 1 proposal format - Discussion around how Phase 1 can fill in the gaps left by Phase 0. Please leave constructive feedback so we keep the signal to noise ratio high in here! \<3 Thank you!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ricardo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/ricardo/32/616_2.png) [@Ricardo](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Ricardo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/2 "2022-05-03T19:42:25Z")
Why the focus on TVL? This excludes OP native NFT marketplaces entirely. Quixotic should be included in this. ---
**Author:** ![kevin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2acd7d/32.png) [@kevin](https://gov.optimism.io/u/kevin)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/3 "2022-05-03T20:03:45Z")
This is a great callout - I personally agree that NFT project usage seemed the least captured from these metrics, and I think it’s important to make note of that for Phase 1. I would definitely encourage OP Collective governance to push to fill in this gap during Phase 1 and actively stimulate NFT ecosystem growth. ---
**Author:** ![Juanbug\_PGov](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/juanbug_pgov/32/10451_2.png) [@Juanbug\_PGov](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Juanbug_PGov)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/4 "2022-05-03T20:26:41Z")
I think there should be other focuses than the emphasize on TVL. Maybe encourage unique users or some other KPIs. ---
**Author:** ![Bodo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/bodo/32/72_2.png) [@Bodo](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Bodo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/5 "2022-05-03T20:47:33Z")
ZipSwap appears to also be deployed on Arbitrum 1 (though liquidity is pretty limited) which I believe would make it ineligible for the Optimism Native multiplier. edit: Here’s the deployed contract > **[Contract Address 0x4D70D768f5E1e6a7062973aFB0c7FBDa9bBb42b3 | Arbiscan](https://arbiscan.io/address/0x4D70D768f5E1e6a7062973aFB0c7FBDa9bBb42b3)** > > The Contract Address 0x4D70D768f5E1e6a7062973aFB0c7FBDa9bBb42b3 page allows users to view the source code, transactions, balances, and analytics for the contract address. Users can also interact and make transactions to the contract directly on... ---
**Author:** ![VISION](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f4b2a3/32.png) [@VISION](https://gov.optimism.io/u/VISION)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/6 "2022-05-03T20:54:06Z")
Using TVL will be totally Disenfranchisement of all the projects building on the Optimistic protocol. Please reconsider it. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![bobby](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/bobby/32/71_2.png) [@bobby](https://gov.optimism.io/u/bobby)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/7 "2022-05-03T21:47:07Z")
Thank you all for the feedback! On-chain metrics (like TVL) are only relevant for Phase 0, which makes up just 15% of the overall Governance Fund / OP Stimpack. Phase 1 will distribute the remaining **85%**. In Phase 1, any project on Optimism can apply for funding. We expect this stage to be more flexible and, as Kevin mentioned, it should fill in the gaps left by Phase 0. ---
**Author:** ![OxMrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ad7895/32.png) [@OxMrb](https://gov.optimism.io/u/OxMrb)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/8 "2022-05-03T22:12:53Z")
Yes, dune dashboard here [Dune](https://dune.com/msilb7/Quixotic-Optimism-NFT-Marketpalce) Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Gonna.eth](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/gonna.eth/32/3379_2.png) [@Gonna.eth](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Gonna.eth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/9 "2022-05-03T22:54:07Z")
Projects from the original retroactive public goods funding should have a voice and be considered in Phase 0. You can take 10.000.000 from the (231,928,234) OP and distribute it with the same % as the original retroactive funding. We face a problem where governance and liquidity are in the same token. If project A goes to phase 1 to ask for OP tokens, they are asking for liquidity to keep the project running. Nonetheless, this Project A should have also OP tokens with no obligation to be allocated but instead, be used for governance. (make them soulbond if you like) ---
**Author:** ![MoneyManDoug](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/moneymandoug/32/395_2.png) [@MoneyManDoug](https://gov.optimism.io/u/MoneyManDoug)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/10 "2022-05-04T00:37:24Z")
i agree with this, i think there is plenty of room to include them. ---
**Author:** ![OPUser](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/opuser/32/179_2.png) [@OPUser](https://gov.optimism.io/u/OPUser)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/14 "2022-05-04T12:49:41Z")
Indeed, Quixotic is a native NFT platform, they should be included in Phase 0. Only checking the TVL is not the right matrix for NFT projects. ---
**Author:** ![polynya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@polynya](https://gov.optimism.io/u/polynya)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/15 "2022-05-05T16:56:14Z")
Generally agree with the sentiment to consider metrics on a more subjective basis from Phase 1. TVL and transactions/day both favour a certain type of protocol. You can have a very valuable protocol that has no TVL and only requires people to make transactions occasionally that could be very valuable. At a later date, I’d like to see subjective ratings by OP citizens (and also more empirical usage metrics by them). ---
**Author:** ![luke-ethwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@luke-ethwalker](https://gov.optimism.io/u/luke-ethwalker)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/16 "2022-05-06T02:28:31Z")
Agree completely. If anything, the last year demonstrated that NFTs drive more social interest than DeFi. Social interest in turn drives retention. ---
**Author:** ![YU158663](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8797f3/32.png) [@YU158663](https://gov.optimism.io/u/YU158663)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 7:24am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/17 "2022-05-09T07:24:23Z")
Phase 1 airdrop should start after the snapshot of the first airdrop in phase zero instead of waiting for a period of time to start again, which is unfair to those who missed the first airdrop of phase zero airdrop recently and is not good for user loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![MoneyManDoug](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/moneymandoug/32/395_2.png) [@MoneyManDoug](https://gov.optimism.io/u/MoneyManDoug)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/18 "2022-05-10T14:42:45Z")
Would be nice to see Hundred Finance included in these phases. ---
**Author:** ![Graciouseats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Graciouseats](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Graciouseats)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/19 "2022-05-13T13:21:04Z")
Is it a conflict of interest for OP Team members to build, under their own name, on OP? The context of this question is that Team members may have advanced notice on future funding criteria’s, and can capitalize and incentivize users into their own projects. However, I also do see honest value space for Team members to independently build (if they have any extra time). For instance, if a new physical city was being built, many initial developers have ties to the founding of that city itself. Those developers may open libraries, universities, banks, etc, all to benefit the general public. At some point the developers placement and access may begin to shift from help to control. Just some thoughts. Thanks!! ---
**Author:** ![Gonna.eth](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/gonna.eth/32/3379_2.png) [@Gonna.eth](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Gonna.eth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/20 "2022-05-15T20:32:01Z")
This is a good point, IMO this happens to almost every DAO too. They start with a few in control and as the project grows the DAO starts to open its governance to new members until it becomes decentralized. I don’t mind trusting OP devs in the beginning if they follow this path. ---
**Author:** ![Joxes](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/joxes/32/5814_2.png) [@Joxes](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Joxes)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/21 "2022-05-22T23:12:13Z")
Continuing with the discussion about the preponderance of TVL, for phase 1 it would be interesting to take into account the WAU metric (weekly active users), which can help marketplaces, games, bridges and trading protocols to be eligible for incentives in a fairer way. ---
**Author:** ![Vie](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/vie/32/415_2.png) [@Vie](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Vie)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/22 "2022-06-24T05:57:02Z")
Add “offical website” and other media info for **Phase 1**. ---
**Author:** ![NOIExchsnge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@NOIExchsnge](https://gov.optimism.io/u/NOIExchsnge)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/governance-fund-discussion-thread/213/23 "2024-01-03T21:27:13Z")
We want Create hex on optimism and i want Create with optimism team about this and funding