非常同意这个方案,如果代币只是进行提案那么对于这个生态系统的发展是非常不利的,我们需要更高的格局!!
I don’t this would work. Fees on mainnet must be paid in ETH… even if a validator wanted to accept OP, a base fee in ETH would need to be burned
amazing proposal
agree
Should go ahead and make OP the network token we don’t want the Eth to be the mafia and control everything. Value needs to be added to OP token.
这是一个很好的提安。good idea!
I fully agree with starget’s point of view. The distinction between L1 and L2 is only at the level of calculation and function positioning. The prosperity of L2 depends on the prosperity of the user ecology, including investors’ profit expectations, the profitability of the project party, and the complexities in the future. If the L2 token can only be used as a vote, what is the significance of the L2 project token? Where is the motivation of investors or participants? Buying or selling tokens is a real gold and silver transaction. In the end, the unsupported tokens will fall, and the profitability of the project side in the ecology will also become very lacking, because the L2 level fee is very low and can be ignored. , the only source of profit for the project party is to issue coins and earn money from investors, which is a very bad and unsustainable situation.
The status of ETH at the L1 level is unshakable. Any ecology that operates in the L1 has achieved good development and sustainable momentum. ETH itself has also appeared a lot of content that maintains the currency price and investors’ income. For example, defi/gamefi/nft, and pledge income, etc., if L2 projects have no such income, and lack of expectations for project growth, then everything will not develop.
Disagree, there would be massive changes to the protocol in order for that to happen
I have to change my mind to uncertain @MinimalGravitas brings up a lot of great points. i do see the value it being a network token but as eluded to earlier by @MinimalGravitas main driver"One of the unique strengths of Optimism is Ethereum Equivalence, it isn’t just EVM compatible, but is designed to operate almost exactly like mainnet. This means porting smart contracts across is as simple as possible, gas works the same, opcodes work the same, it means Optimism can adopt all the same EIPs as Ethereum with minimal extra work. Basically it’s an amazing advantage over just about everything else."
cant agree more! OP must be used everyday
agree, it’s so cool, let’s do it.
I think this is a premature change to a system that hasn’t started to function yet the way optimism intended. I would encourage anyone asking about where token value will come from to read this OP Economics | Optimism Docs. It’s a well thought out proposition that token value is often truly based on ecosystem profitability and not quick moves to try and pump a token. Think of the gnosis token, a governance token that isn’t really used on the gnosis chain except through validators, but it’s value come in part from the influence of a massive treasury around the productive elements of the ecosystem the team birthed (gnosis safe, dxdao, cowswap, Etc.) Eth isn’t where it is because of its burn function, it is where it is because of it amazing utility and the massive ecosystem utilising it’s security and the proceeding gigantic market cap. The use case of the token will continue to evolve but to make this change without some good reasons on how it will add to the ecosystem value seems short sighted. As has already been brought up, it probably would not have the intended effect anyway, it would have to be transferred into eth and this would create sell pressure, it can’t just be burned as those fees are necessary for security. I can see OP serving as a possible validator stake in the future but only if that was the best thing for the ecosystem. As the document I linked says “Simply put: the right to blockspace is the sustainable source of revenue that drives OP’s economic model and grows with the network itself.”
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Adding my weight to the “no’s”. As others have said, one of the great strength of Optimism is EVM equivalence. Tinkering with the way the EVM works to artificially provide utility to our governance token would be shooting ourselves in the foot. The purpose of OP is not for numba to go up, it’s to facilitate decentralised governance.
Agree more! OP must be used everyday
This is really great. Or we can use both $OP and $ETH, let the user choose when use.
I’m fully in support
how do I vote?
I support. I dont the token is worth anything without accrual of values to the token holders. No one wants to pay $1 for 1/4,300,000,000th of a governance of one protocol.
Started this thread then got to know the topic has already started here. Either way take a look at this too. Thank you!
Enabling $OP as a gas token on Optimism Network!
The $OP token can be used to pay gas fees on the Optimism Network!. This is a major addition to the utility of the $OP token, and will help increase adoption and usage of the Optimism Network!.
ETH remains the default gas token, but all users will have the option to change to $OP. Users preferring to stick with ETH gas payments do not have to do anything, but using $OP will result in a 25% gas fee discount!
Benefits
The Optimism token already has significant utility on the network, and this improvement will unify usage of $OP as the fees token for all Optimism Networks. Currently, $OP is used for voting and delegating votes in the Optimism Network.
This can incentivize bridging since we can airdrop a small amount of $Op for first time users of the network. It will also prevent the need to bridge both ETH and for Optimism Network usage.
Additional benefits:
Increased trading volume for $OP
Increase the total market cap with the usage of $Op tokens as Gass
Increase the price of the $OP.
$Op will be traded in Eth and L1 markets.
Increased user choice on the network.
Makes it easier for bridging.
Eliminates the need to bridge both $ETH and $OP for network usage
Technical Details
Adding a second fee token to a live Mainnet is a major technical lift with many ramifications for security, convenience, documentation, message-relay, fraud-detection, block-explorers, The Graph indexing, wallets, the gateway, and overall developer and user experience. We are proposing an opt-in strategy where users can, if they wish, pay for fees in $OP. This fee choice will be recorded in an L2 contract. Changing the fee token will require interacting with this feeChoice contract. To reduce friction points for new users, a second system of contracts will be built that allows users without ETH on L2 to change their fee setting to $OP, using a MetaTransaction, in which Optimism Network pays the ETH to change their fee token setting in return for OP from the user. This means that for new users, they will only need to bridge OP to Optimism to then use its full range of services, contracts, and DAPS
What Does this Mean for User experience?
If you want to continue to use ETH to pay for transactions on the Optimism Network, you don’t have to do anything.If you want to pay for transactions in $OP, select $OP, and confirm the transaction. After that, all future transactions will be charged in $OP. Users will be able to switch between $OP and $ETH as the fee token.
Conclusion
$OP Token Receives Utility Boost, Use for Gas Fees on Optimism Network
Credits goes to - Zukaboba
That’s a very good offer。
This is worth a try if feasible.
Da, este o idee buna.Oferă utilitate multiple jetonului. Face multe activități defi mult mai interesante și mai profitabile cu un jeton de gaz.