# 5th Citizens’ House community call \[October 31st, 4 PM UTC\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Updates and Announcements 📢\ **Created:** [October 30, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/5th-citizens-house-community-call-october-31st-4-pm-utc/7033 "2023-10-30T15:23:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gonna.eth](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/gonna.eth/32/3379_2.png) [@Gonna.eth](https://gov.optimism.io/u/Gonna.eth)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/5th-citizens-house-community-call-october-31st-4-pm-utc/7033/1 "2023-10-30T15:23:08Z")
Hello Collective! We will have our 5th Citizens’ House community call on Tuesday, October 31st, at 4 PM UTC. The Zoom link is [here](https://us06web.zoom.us/j/82918330505?pwd=wi6fyboxRQSnhijINWnWC7opQpaHn8.1) Added to the [governance calendar](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/r?cid=Y19mbm10Z3VoNm5vbzZxZ2JuaTJncGVyaWQ0a0Bncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t). As always, everybody is welcome. Please add any agenda topics to this thread if you’d like. See you there! Gonna * * * [This is the link](https://drive.google.com/file/d/12XtdABVvUMypjsilfdhVskZcgVa7-aRP/view?usp=drive_link) to the recorded call ---
**Author:** ![fujiar](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/fujiar/32/10573_2.png) [@fujiar](https://gov.optimism.io/u/fujiar)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/5th-citizens-house-community-call-october-31st-4-pm-utc/7033/2 "2023-10-31T03:11:54Z")
Thank you @Gonna.eth for notice🙌🏻 ---
**Author:** ![LauNaMu](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/launamu/32/6092_2.png) [@LauNaMu](https://gov.optimism.io/u/LauNaMu)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/5th-citizens-house-community-call-october-31st-4-pm-utc/7033/3 "2023-10-31T15:14:50Z")
Two items for the agenda I’d like to pitch in 🙂 1. 5 min intro to the Impact Evaluation Framework 2. Shout-out to the categorization initiative for List creation Thanks @Gonna.eth ! ---
**Author:** ![ethdaily](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/ethdaily/32/5648_2.png) [@ethdaily](https://gov.optimism.io/u/ethdaily)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/5th-citizens-house-community-call-october-31st-4-pm-utc/7033/4 "2023-11-02T19:16:14Z")
**5th Citizens’ House Community Call Summary** [Slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mXAQz2kstQ9CHBnu8mEKT_r5IW5GguovSyQifFWv64Q/edit#slide=id.g2542d46421b_0_0) **Application Review Process:** - Over 850 RetroPGF3 applications were reviewed in the first round; 147 are pending in the second. - An [appeals process](https://gov.optimism.io/t/retropgf-3-application-review-appeals/7051) is in place for projects that were removed. **Badgeholder Manual:** - Feedback is sought on the [Badgeholder Manual](https://plaid-cement-e44.notion.site/RetroPGF-3-Badgeholder-Manual-d580fdd0c91c4647853f92a62cd967a5) to guide the voting cycle. - Recognition of the quorum issue for project voting thresholds and whether badgeholders should vote 0 or not vote at all for projects they believe have an impact gap of 0. Each application needs a minimum quorum of votes from 17 badgeholders to receive funding. - Concerns and confusion about the voting weights and token distribution process. The Badgeholder Manual is referenced for clarity, with promises to add illustrative examples. **Impact=Profit Framework** - An [Impact=Profit Framework](https://gov.optimism.io/t/retropgf-impact-profit-framework/7034) has been developed to assess impact across various categories. It’s designed to aid badgeholders in evaluating projects by providing high-signal impact indicators. - Discussion about balancing projects that extract more profit than have generated impact. A proposal is suggested to implement a threshold. Concerns about setting profitability thresholds are raised that might disincentivize exceeding allocated amounts. **Impact Evaluation Framework:** - [Impact Evaluation Framework](https://gov.optimism.io/t/retropgf-3-impact-evaluation-framework/7037) to be used for projects, stressing meaningful metrics. - Importance of evaluating projects on performance, security, resilience, and metrics, especially in impact to the Optimism Collective. **Workshops:** - Jonas and Griff will be at Devconnect. [Onchain Summit Workshop](https://lu.ma/onchainsummit.istanbul) - Meeting preparations for gathering RetroPGF folks in Istanbul, seeking volunteers for hosting. - Upcoming impact evaluation workshops for badgeholders, with content to be available on YouTube. ---
**Author:** ![mastermojo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/bc41dd/user_avatar/gov.optimism.io/mastermojo/32/1178_2.png) [@mastermojo](https://gov.optimism.io/u/mastermojo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://gov.optimism.io/t/5th-citizens-house-community-call-october-31st-4-pm-utc/7033/5 "2023-11-03T11:35:31Z")
Thanks for the summary Ethdaily!